Dr. Paul LeBlanc on How We Can Fix Our Social Systems

Key Points

  • If we don’t get the human piece as the starting place, we will not be successful. 

  • No one who has been lifted out of poverty cites a policy, cites a system … they always cite a person.

  • CEOs must be collectors of stories: stories we agree with and don’t agree with. 

Paul Leblanc How We Can Fix Our Social Systems

This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a part of our New Pathways campaign. In partnership with American Student Assistance® (ASA), the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Stand Together and the Walton Foundation, the New Pathways campaign will question education’s status quo and propose new methods of giving students a chance to experience success in what’s next. 

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Dr Paul LeBlanc, president of Southern New Hampshire University and author of the books Students First: Equity, Access, and Opportunity in Higher Education and, most recently, Broken: How Our Social Systems are Failing Us and How We Can Fix Them 

If you don’t have mattering at the heart of the system, nothing else is important. 

Paul LeBlanc

Listen in while Tom and Paul talk about the power of stories, the difference between belonging and mattering and how keeping relationships at the center of human systems is the only way to find success.


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