Tim Knowles and Amit Sevak on What To Do with the Carnegie Unit
Key Points
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The future driver of education will be skill rather than time or place.Â
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Rather than thinking about assessment being at the end of learning, it should be at the beginning of learning to serve as a signal for the individual.

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On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen is joined by Amit Sevak, the CEO of ETS, the largest private educational assessment organization in the world and Tim Knowles, the 10th president of the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching. Both Amit and Tim are long-term education leaders and entrepreneurs who have focused their careers on creating better opportunities for more people through education.
Together, they have formed a new partnership to rethink assessment and measurement.Â
Education at its heart is fundamentally emancipatory.
Tim Knowles
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Holly Montano
Great listen. This work being done by The Carnegie Foundation and ETS is important. I believe skills based assessments will give students more visible purpose in their schoolwork and will result in increased safety and positivity for students, teachers, and communities.