Maggie Favretti and Benjamin Freud, PhD. on Regenerative Learning and Rediscovering Our Relationship to All Living Systems

Key Points

  • Generative learning is about action and creating. Regenerative Learning is about more than sustaining… it’s about thriving. 

  • This work is revolutionary, but it is not new. 

On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Nate McClennen is joined by Maggie Favretti and Benjamin Freud, authors, consultants and advocates for the environment, for people and for a more sustainable future. At Getting Smart, we are thinking a lot about Green Schools – sustainability, regenerative learning and equitable and inclusive future.

Maggie is founder of DesignEd 4 Resilience and is currently working on a new book titled Beyond Futurephobia: Teaching, Learning and Life in the Age of Climate Disasters.

Benjamin is the co-founder of Coconut Thinking and has years of experience in international schools, PBL, school leadership and more. 

Let’s listen in as they discuss how we need to shift towards kinetic energy, how human beings are actually human becomings, the importance of regenerative learning, the metaverse and much more. 


Benjamin also shared that we should tune into the work of Louka Parry and his podcast Learning Future to learn more.

We must get rid of the word school. That’s an old word from an old narrative. 

Benjamin Freud

Maggie shared the important work of Ayana Verdi, the founder of the Verdi Ecoschool and also recommended that you check out the amazing work of Aula en la Montana. She also stressed the importance of developing a new teacher pipeline. “We can’t just use a new OS with the same hardware.”

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